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Flickr is falling by the wayside

Friday, September 23rd, 2011

The more I’ve used G+, the less I’ve been interested in Flickr. Some of it is the interaction – it’s so much smoother in G+, it’s almost painful to use Flickr. A lot of it is just their lack of attention to detail.

Interaction is probably the largest bit. It’s easy to follow other photo producers. But leave a comment, and it’s nearly impossible to track replies to your comments. It’s fine for building a following, or a list of followers. It’s a failure for building interpersonal ties. That’s unforgiveable in the age of social media, I think.

But it’s solveable. I suppose there are third-party apps that could help, or other workarounds. Flickr could (god forbid) do some actual development of their own site. Shoot, even Facebook rolled out a bunch of features recently. If they could shift quickly, surely Flickr could?

But if Flickr were to try to adapt, I fear their lack of attention to detail would kill them. It’s a hard thing to define – why are Google’s, 500px, and others’ sites so much easier to use? Why do bugs still exist in Flickr’s interface?

The experience on other sites isn’t perfect. But Flickr – shoot, I can’t click on images in the web app. My Android phone won’t position the lightbox-enabled photo properly. That’s a pretty important piece, don’t you think?

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Flickr and G+, followup

Sunday, August 21st, 2011

Yesterday I mentioned how Google+ is far superior for interaction.  It seems that I missed a thread on Metafilter titled “Flickring Out” where similar thoughts were brought up.  Among the more interesting points, things to not forget:

  • Thomas Hawk doesn’t exist.  He’s really Andrew Petersen, a San-Francisco-based stockbroker (direct link).
  • The overall consensus of Hawk isn’t terribly positive.  Similar to my own. I do find it interesting that people criticize his work, when in my mind it is very much subjective.
  • A link (from here) to the most important page on Flickr. Yes indeed: the contacts page is indeed quite a mess. This ties in to my complaints about comments.
  • There is a definite feeling that Yahoo has killed Flickr.  Flickr, after their previous layoffs, has definitely lost their key supporters.
  • There is a feeling that the quality of photographers has dropped.  I believe they are heading for 500px and similar sites, where they are taken more seriously.
  • I get a feeling that Flickr has become a commodity to Yahoo.  They are turning into the Budweiser of photo-sharing sites.
  • There are multiple complaints from people that their comments/contacts have dropped off.  I have noticed the same.
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Flickr and G+

Saturday, August 20th, 2011

Many photographers are flocking to Google+ these days. It’s the best thing ever, they say. They crow about the superior browsing of photos, and the engagement they get from fellow photographers on G+. I agree with them but I think they’re just a bit off, conceptually.

Coming at this from a different angle: I’ve finally put my finger on what it is that frustrates me about Flickr, yet excites me about Google+. It’s the interaction.

On Flickr, you can comment. But it’s hard to follow a thread of conversation – you get lost in the noise, as it were. You can follow comments on your photos, but you lose yourself on other peoples’ threads.

G+ really doesn’t have that problem. Not yet, at least. Since there aren’t thousands of annoying banners, invites, etc., you don’t lose track of the conversation.

So for me, that’s really it. Flickr still has its place, but barely. Google+ is more appropriate (for now) for connecting with like-minded people.

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Some Images Worth Spending some Time With

Monday, November 22nd, 2010

Reading through the comments on Ctein’s most recent entry on The Online Photographer, and I came upon this gem. From his description:

Started in an attempt to see if I wanted to stay with MF film. Turned into a challenge to see how many OK shots I could drag out of the 3 rolls of 120 Delta 400 iso in my Rolleiflex 2.8F that’s had too little use since I bought it in 1980.

As a recent entrant into the world of the 60′s-something Rolleiflex, I’m pretty amazed.  I recently went through my first roll (on Tri-X), and ended up with only one keeper – and a personal one, at that (picture of my daughter). I have a long way to go, but at least I can enjoy some of this gent’s work.  Particular favorites:

  • Barclays 3 Cash. Wow, I think this is the best in the set.
  • Fresh Air. The look, the framing, the slightly off-kilter eyes that aren’t quite in sync.  Beautiful street portrait.
  • Polar Explorer. There’s almost joy on the gent’s face.
  • 28 June 1996 ~ 9. This is about as good as street photography gets.  Again with the off-kilter eyes, but this time in combination with the anti-Gaddafi sign. So much that could be read into it.

Contrast his work with:

Monopoly Die

Monopoly Die

Not the best, as I was testing a close-up lens attachment.  So very far to go…

An extra thanks to Mike (proprietor and general know-it-all of TOP) for pointing this one out.

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Not sure ’bout this Flickr update

Thursday, June 24th, 2010

Flickr is getting ready to roll out a new design and interface. I’m not sure I really like it, though – seems to run a little slow, kinda hard to find things.

Some things are better, though – adding your photo to groups is much more efficient (once you figure out how to do it).

Guess we’ll see what comes of it…

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Flickr Favebrowsr, an observation

Sunday, May 9th, 2010
Favebrowsr, today

Favebrowsr, today

This is really more of an observation about Flickr than anything else, but I’ve noticed: if you lock down your files in Flickr (no download, no seeing other sizes), but upload a larger-sized photo (compared to the on-screen display of a Flickr image), the full size is actually available to anyone who tries to access via the Flickr API.

Take this pic, for example. I favorited it just a short while ago. On screen, it’s fairly small – maybe 400 pixels wide.

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It’s alive – but barely

Tuesday, February 2nd, 2010

Flickr Favebrowsr

Flickr Favebrowsr

Meet the Flickr Favebrowsr.

I wasn’t in too creative of a mood when I named it, but I was enchanted by the concept.  I forget where I saw it, exactly, but someone had built a beautiful way of surfing between user’s favorites. It was wonderful, but: it required giving up personal info (email address, or logging in) and the images in all screens were too small for my tastes. Some of the behavior wasn’t all that I wanted, either.

So I built my own.

You see the results to the right – and the link to the far right.

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What do you prefer in a photo?

Sunday, July 19th, 2009

I’ve been messing around with Flickr for a short while now, mostly to get a sense of what people like. I’ve come to the conclusion that Flickr isn’t the best place for that.  This isn’t to say that people on Flickr have bad taste, but rather to say that they have different tastes. If you are trying to sell (or otherwise impress) to people for prints, then Flickr is probably the wrong area.

For example, compare these two photos:

Eklutna Lake at Sunset

Eklutna Lake at Sunset (HDR)

Drops of dew

Drops of dew

First, you see them small, here on the screen.  Then look at them in their larger view (click through to Flickr & choose “all sizes”).  Compare them.

Which one do you prefer? At which size?  Based on responses on Flickr (not the “nice jorb” type of comments, but traffic, favorites, etc), the HDR of Eklutna is the superior pic. And yet, I neither prefer it nor believe it.  In the smaller size, the HDR is certainly easier to make out.  But in larger sizes?  I prefer the Drops of Dew pic.  If this were to be printed out?  I suspect anything larger than 8×10 would be better with the Drops of Dew pic, as well.

I guess my point, in the end, is this: if you’re looking to sell a print, many times the format of Flickr makes it the wrong place to market your work. You’re probably better off printing the work and hanging it at a local coffee shop – at least there you will be showing exactly what you’re selling.

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